The wreckage of the unauthorised AirAsia flight QZ 8501.
16 thoughts on “AirAsia Claimed “Verbal Application” Made For QZ8501”
It is unheard of an airline making an application for a change of its schedules verbally. Another serious revelation of how this low caste airline operates althea years. It could owe airport taxes and now official applications were made verbally. Indonesian Transport Ministry should terminate AirAsia’s Air Operation Certificate (AOC). It should not be allowed to operate in Indonesia. In fact it should not be allowed to operate anywhere in the world because innocent lives may be in danger. We have already seen the lost of 162 lives. Do we need to see more lives to be lost in the future.
We can only hope that our dunggu DCA officers are not like the Indonesian counterpart by allowing AirAsia to do what it wants.
Am I right!! TF runs AA in all countries like “cowboy style”… This is too much to take especially so for the Families of victims of the Flight 8501.. How can they get away with it without the appropriate punishment.. Daylight manslaughter!!
If the flight is illegal, definitely, the insurance company would not pay at all.
I hope the Indonesia Government would take the necessary action to charge AA/TF so as to ensure that this does not recur and teaches them that this is not Malaysia, of which you can get away with it..
Tony WTF you are doing! You are playing with the innocent lives of your passengers.
As I have read before in YB’s blog: Tiny’s famous quote “if you price the fares low enough, MALAYSIANS are prepared to risk their lives”. This is the vision or motto of TOny and AirAsia.
Tony you have the bloods of 162 innocent passengers and crew on your hands. I hope that you and your AirAsia will be punished in Indonesia and everywhere else and by GOD.
God bless the 162 victims who have sacrificed for Tony and AirAsia to make the blood money!
Indonesian government must take drastic actions against Tony and his AirAsia. For a start he should be charge for “murder” of the 162 innocent passengers.
Out DCA must now do an immediate audit of all the operations of the low caste airline whether they have cut corners on safety measures and approvals. We ned to protect innocent lives.
In view of the admission by AirAsia that it has no permit to fly on Sunday and QZ8501 flew on that day. 162 lives have been lost just like that. Our DCA should do a thorough audit on AirAsia before many lives are lost again. Prevention is better than cure. Always remember air safety cost a lot of money. AirAsia will do everything to save money. It even refused to pay 20 Sen per passenger to use the aerobridge provided by MAHB. Aerobridge is part of passengers convenience and more importantly safety. How could it be safe when passengers have to walk down the stairs and on the tarmac to the plane?
No wonder the Pariah had gone dumb lately. We thought that he got the gift of the gap. Now his big gap was causing tremendous problems for him and AirAsia.
I full agree that Indonesian Government must take actions to charge the Pariah and AirAsia for operating unlawfully.
What “administrative negligence”? There are 162 lives perished because of more “profit” or “negligence”. It was a murder that AirAsia, Sunu and Tony Fernandez must be held responsible for. AirAsia/Tony Fernandez was lying all the time when he said that AirAsia was authorised to fly 7 days a week from Surubaya to Singapore. Now AirAsia was forced by circumstances to admit this serious offence that killed 162 innocent passengers.
Where is the big mouth Tony Fernandez now? We would like to hear how is he going to spin or lie to get out from this serious fix?
The Indonesian Authorities must punish AirAsia, Sunu and/or Tony Fernandez for this “administrative negligence”. They have killed 162 passengers. They must be responsible for their acts.
It is now time for the Indonesian govt to put the muderers behind bars. It has been reported that Tony Fernandez met Najib today. I don’t understand why PM Najib has the time to waste with the spinner or liar. That’s the trouble with Najib and his advisors.
The pariah said in a press conference last week that he will be in Surabaya to assist the families of the passengers. Ever since it was exposed by the Minister of Transport that QZ8501 was unauthorized to fly on Sunday, he had disappeared from Surabaya. Now he is running to Najib for help. The end is getting nearer for him. Now AirAsia and him need helps and not MAS. Served him right. Unfortunately 162 lives have to be sacrificed for this pariah.
For one, it may have a significant impact on a struggling AA Indonesia outfit which has been a losing concern throughout in a highly competitive environment:
My concern is not so much TF and his gang. They can take a hike in the slammer for all I care. That would be wonderful payback on what was inflicted on MAS and a QPR relegation would be the icing on the cake.
My concern has more to do with the debt overhang that fueled AA’s growth via easy credit. How many local banks underwriting them loans would suffer especially if 1MDB follows suit. Will the rakyat, whom I am deeply concerned about have to ultimately bear the pain through EPF and the usual suspects etc etc?
At last count, AA debt stood at 10.7 billion (roughly 80%- dollar denominated):
I see little or no hope of AA ever pruning its debts to manageable proportions and the failures of its parent and associates plus AAX will constitute a major financial catastrophe.
For the sake of my beloved Malaysia, I hope AA’s demise would not leave us scavenging through a burnt out fuselage or a mangled tail section:
I am not surprised at all when that happened. Many low cost airlines had folded up (Kignfisher in India, Oasis in Hong Kong and several in USA and others). Don’t tell me that Tony Fernandez is a genius. He got where it is today because of the enormous help from the Pak Lah’s Administration.
With the selling off of Caterham, QPR facing possibility of relegation and no sponsorship from MAS, AirAsia X is losing money big time and now the crashed of QZ8501, Tony/AirAsia future will be very bleak.
The moral of the story is: Don’t be arrogant. Stop treating others as fools. Now Everyone Can Laugh and … Ka! Ka! Ka!
The Spin Dr’s head is spinning very badly now. Padan muka!
May I firstly extend my deepest condolence, sympathy and prayers to the family members of passengers and crew of this flight.
There are rumours in Europe that the slogan of Air Asia will be amended to
“Now Everyone Can Die”
cheap is cheap.. and so is the compensation to the families…
so sad……….
Only cowboy or flight by night company made verbal application for flight schedules. Indonesian must probe deeper into the relationship between Officers at the Surabaya Airport Control Tower and AirAsia. The answer could be easily found.
The Big Mouth Tony had said that he will be in Surabaya to assist the families. After the unauthorized QZ8501 was exposed, the Big Mouth Pariah had disappeared from Surabaya. He is running to see Najib for help. He should be running to Nazir for help so that CIMB can give Airsia more loans. What a joke – verbal application!!
Tony, your silence on the admission of administrative negligence by AirAsia is most deafening! The world is looking forward to see how you would spin this damning admission. Please show us your expertise.
Are you running away from Surabaya?
Tony Fernandez and his outfits must pay for their administrative negligence and at the same time the directors and Tony must be sent to jail. Jail is the place for killing 160 innocent passengers.
So Tony must apologise for deceiving the public yet again. All govt must come down hard on Tony n Air Asia
The wreckage of the unauthorised AirAsia flight QZ 8501.
It is unheard of an airline making an application for a change of its schedules verbally. Another serious revelation of how this low caste airline operates althea years. It could owe airport taxes and now official applications were made verbally. Indonesian Transport Ministry should terminate AirAsia’s Air Operation Certificate (AOC). It should not be allowed to operate in Indonesia. In fact it should not be allowed to operate anywhere in the world because innocent lives may be in danger. We have already seen the lost of 162 lives. Do we need to see more lives to be lost in the future.
We can only hope that our dunggu DCA officers are not like the Indonesian counterpart by allowing AirAsia to do what it wants.
Am I right!! TF runs AA in all countries like “cowboy style”… This is too much to take especially so for the Families of victims of the Flight 8501.. How can they get away with it without the appropriate punishment.. Daylight manslaughter!!
If the flight is illegal, definitely, the insurance company would not pay at all.
I hope the Indonesia Government would take the necessary action to charge AA/TF so as to ensure that this does not recur and teaches them that this is not Malaysia, of which you can get away with it..
Tony WTF you are doing! You are playing with the innocent lives of your passengers.
As I have read before in YB’s blog: Tiny’s famous quote “if you price the fares low enough, MALAYSIANS are prepared to risk their lives”. This is the vision or motto of TOny and AirAsia.
Tony you have the bloods of 162 innocent passengers and crew on your hands. I hope that you and your AirAsia will be punished in Indonesia and everywhere else and by GOD.
God bless the 162 victims who have sacrificed for Tony and AirAsia to make the blood money!
Indonesian government must take drastic actions against Tony and his AirAsia. For a start he should be charge for “murder” of the 162 innocent passengers.
Out DCA must now do an immediate audit of all the operations of the low caste airline whether they have cut corners on safety measures and approvals. We ned to protect innocent lives.
In view of the admission by AirAsia that it has no permit to fly on Sunday and QZ8501 flew on that day. 162 lives have been lost just like that. Our DCA should do a thorough audit on AirAsia before many lives are lost again. Prevention is better than cure. Always remember air safety cost a lot of money. AirAsia will do everything to save money. It even refused to pay 20 Sen per passenger to use the aerobridge provided by MAHB. Aerobridge is part of passengers convenience and more importantly safety. How could it be safe when passengers have to walk down the stairs and on the tarmac to the plane?
No wonder the Pariah had gone dumb lately. We thought that he got the gift of the gap. Now his big gap was causing tremendous problems for him and AirAsia.
I full agree that Indonesian Government must take actions to charge the Pariah and AirAsia for operating unlawfully.
What “administrative negligence”? There are 162 lives perished because of more “profit” or “negligence”. It was a murder that AirAsia, Sunu and Tony Fernandez must be held responsible for. AirAsia/Tony Fernandez was lying all the time when he said that AirAsia was authorised to fly 7 days a week from Surubaya to Singapore. Now AirAsia was forced by circumstances to admit this serious offence that killed 162 innocent passengers.
Where is the big mouth Tony Fernandez now? We would like to hear how is he going to spin or lie to get out from this serious fix?
The Indonesian Authorities must punish AirAsia, Sunu and/or Tony Fernandez for this “administrative negligence”. They have killed 162 passengers. They must be responsible for their acts.
It is now time for the Indonesian govt to put the muderers behind bars. It has been reported that Tony Fernandez met Najib today. I don’t understand why PM Najib has the time to waste with the spinner or liar. That’s the trouble with Najib and his advisors.
The pariah said in a press conference last week that he will be in Surabaya to assist the families of the passengers. Ever since it was exposed by the Minister of Transport that QZ8501 was unauthorized to fly on Sunday, he had disappeared from Surabaya. Now he is running to Najib for help. The end is getting nearer for him. Now AirAsia and him need helps and not MAS. Served him right. Unfortunately 162 lives have to be sacrificed for this pariah.
For one, it may have a significant impact on a struggling AA Indonesia outfit which has been a losing concern throughout in a highly competitive environment:
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/ceaee908-9718-11e4-9636-00144feabdc0.html
The ramifications can be serious to the parent company:
http://thejakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/business/airasias-minority-ownership-structure-obscures-crash-impact/
My concern is not so much TF and his gang. They can take a hike in the slammer for all I care. That would be wonderful payback on what was inflicted on MAS and a QPR relegation would be the icing on the cake.
My concern has more to do with the debt overhang that fueled AA’s growth via easy credit. How many local banks underwriting them loans would suffer especially if 1MDB follows suit. Will the rakyat, whom I am deeply concerned about have to ultimately bear the pain through EPF and the usual suspects etc etc?
At last count, AA debt stood at 10.7 billion (roughly 80%- dollar denominated):
http://www.airasia.com/docs/common-docs/investor-relations/aa_3q14_bursa_announcement.pdf (page 14)
That’s roughly 4 billion more than the 6.8billion accumulated as of 2009
http://www.airasia.com/iwov-resources/my/common/pdf/AirAsia/IR/AA_4Q09_Bursa_Announcement.pdf
I see little or no hope of AA ever pruning its debts to manageable proportions and the failures of its parent and associates plus AAX will constitute a major financial catastrophe.
For the sake of my beloved Malaysia, I hope AA’s demise would not leave us scavenging through a burnt out fuselage or a mangled tail section:
http://news.detik.com/read/2015/01/10/183658/2799688/10/begini-porak-porandanya-ekor-airasia-qz8501-yang-berhasil-diangkat?991104topnews
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I am not surprised at all when that happened. Many low cost airlines had folded up (Kignfisher in India, Oasis in Hong Kong and several in USA and others). Don’t tell me that Tony Fernandez is a genius. He got where it is today because of the enormous help from the Pak Lah’s Administration.
With the selling off of Caterham, QPR facing possibility of relegation and no sponsorship from MAS, AirAsia X is losing money big time and now the crashed of QZ8501, Tony/AirAsia future will be very bleak.
The moral of the story is: Don’t be arrogant. Stop treating others as fools. Now Everyone Can Laugh and … Ka! Ka! Ka!
The Spin Dr’s head is spinning very badly now. Padan muka!
May I firstly extend my deepest condolence, sympathy and prayers to the family members of passengers and crew of this flight.
There are rumours in Europe that the slogan of Air Asia will be amended to
“Now Everyone Can Die”
cheap is cheap.. and so is the compensation to the families…
so sad……….
Only cowboy or flight by night company made verbal application for flight schedules. Indonesian must probe deeper into the relationship between Officers at the Surabaya Airport Control Tower and AirAsia. The answer could be easily found.
The Big Mouth Tony had said that he will be in Surabaya to assist the families. After the unauthorized QZ8501 was exposed, the Big Mouth Pariah had disappeared from Surabaya. He is running to see Najib for help. He should be running to Nazir for help so that CIMB can give Airsia more loans. What a joke – verbal application!!
Tony, your silence on the admission of administrative negligence by AirAsia is most deafening! The world is looking forward to see how you would spin this damning admission. Please show us your expertise.
Are you running away from Surabaya?
Tony Fernandez and his outfits must pay for their administrative negligence and at the same time the directors and Tony must be sent to jail. Jail is the place for killing 160 innocent passengers.
So Tony must apologise for deceiving the public yet again. All govt must come down hard on Tony n Air Asia